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Poster: caspersvapors Date: Dec 29, 2005 8:31am
Forum: etree Subject: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

i.e. Clapton, or Page

I know he really liked Santana, they jammed together a few times. But Ive never really heard anything about anyone else. Jerry Garcia is one of those guitarists that splits a lot of opinions, just curious about what he thought..

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Poster: cush11 Date: Dec 29, 2005 12:46pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

All discussion (or arguments) aside... Garcia was the best damn 9 fingered guitarist I've ever heard!

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Poster: wineland Date: Jan 13, 2006 4:37am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

Perhaps a technicality, but a true and valid argument.

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Poster: lip11 Date: Dec 29, 2005 9:11am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

Not sure it would matter. Jerry could play Clapton's music with 1 finger, and Page's with another finger. I like Page, but no one is in Jerry's class. Pick any guitarist, and Jerry could play their style, only better, but no one even attempts to play like Jerry. I've heard versions of Jerry doing All Along the Watchtower, that, sorry, blow Hendrix away.




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Poster: Shawn Smith Date: Dec 29, 2005 9:21am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

ummm... you either don't know how to play guitar, or if you do you have never taken it very seriously. you may like jerry's style more than page, clapton, and hendrix, but that dowsn't mean he was a better player.

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Poster: Voice Date: Dec 29, 2005 10:54am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

I agree i think you are over rating Garcia as a guitarist

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Poster: Fishead Date: Dec 29, 2005 9:08pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

a useless arguement . why bother.

they were and are all great in their own way and that is what makes music so great!! who cares who's better..

it doesnt matter anyway!!!!!!!!

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Poster: Doc 2/5 Date: Dec 30, 2005 11:48pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

He really liked Roy Buchanan. In a video titled "The Greatest Unknown Guitarist” produced for PBS in the early 70's Garcia is interviewed and he raves about Roy's playing.

If your familiar with Roy you can hear the influenced in Garcia's playing. For example In the DVD "Down Hill form here” West LA freeway JG solo contains a lot of the structure of Buchanan's "I'm a Ram" solo. Lots of others.. Your be listening and then think..."There's a Roy riff"

Two weeks after Roy committed suicide played Garcia a "He's Gone" during the Landover MD show (Roy used to live nearby in Reston VA.). Maybe just a coincidence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Buchanan

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Poster: Mars245 Date: Dec 31, 2005 8:18pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

Roy Buchanan ...thanks for reminding me , was a true legend and American Master like Jerry .

That song "I am a Ram" is almost too scary...makes you jump right out of your socks ! And for an encore that will get you down on your knees searching for your very soul try

" Drowning on Dry Land "

Of course , alot can be said of substance abuse with both guitarists , in the end we get blessed with some genius at the cost of some longevity .


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Poster: caspersvapors Date: Jan 12, 2006 4:52pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

wow so I took your advice and followed up on Roy Buchanan. I am completely blown away, I dont think Ive ever heard anyone draw more expression out of the guitar. Ive ALWAYS considered Jimi to be the GOAT, but Im not sure anymore after listening to this guy...

I rarely get chills up my back from listening to music, but this is just too much...

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Poster: Simard Date: Dec 30, 2005 2:41am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

I recall hearing/reading that Garcia was big fan of Mark Knopfler. I've always thought there was something similar between the two.

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Poster: mikeohiostate Date: Dec 30, 2005 6:58am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

Q: WAS JERRY GARCIA THE BEST GUITARIST EVER?
A: NO.

However, I have yet to find another guitarist that was so fluent in so many styles. He mastered:

-Psychedelic rock (the Grateful Dead, duh!)
-Bluegrass (Old & In the Way)
-Folk (duo with David Grisman, among other things..)
-Country (New Riders of the Purple Sage)
-Funk (the Brent era)
-Jazz (Legion of Mary, the Keith era)
-Blues (early, early GD, JGB)
-Gospel & Soul (JGB, eg- “Jerry Garcia Band – Live at the Shoreline.”
-foreign cultures (check out the soundcheck jams from the first night in Egypt)

Furthermore, he was very skilled with:
-Guitars (duh!)
-MIDI guitars
-Piano & keyboards
-Bass
-BANJO
-Mandolin
-Slide guitar
-Steel pedal
-Oh, and lets not forget the Kazoo

And he has played with names such as:
-Santana
-Bob Dylan
-John Cipollina
-David Grisman
-Tony Rice
-Pete Townshend
-Steve Miller
-Branford Marsalis
-Janis Joplin
-Jorma Kaukonen
-Duane & Gregg Allman
-Dickey Betts
-Crosby
-Bruce Hornsby
-Steve Kimock
-plenty more…

So,
Q: WAS JERRY GARCIA THE BEST ALL-AROUND GUITARIST?
A: HELL YA!!

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Poster: Diana Hamilton Date: Dec 30, 2005 8:02am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of Janis

After seeing the documentary "Festival Express" last night, I'd say he at least seemed like the guitarist most able to play no matter how drunken. :) Fave drunken quote, Garcia to Joplin, "I've loved you since I first saw you... So now you now."

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Poster: nagdot Date: Dec 30, 2005 10:05am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

kazoo thats funny i lived 20 mins from the worlds only funtioning kazoo factory back to the discussion do you think jerry had a bad word to say of anyone he didnt seem like that kind of person id say his praises were for every guitarist bad or good just becuz he played in multi genre'd bands doesnt mean he was the best hes just as good as the next person his style separates him

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Poster: nagdot Date: Dec 29, 2005 11:07am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

i must agree on jerry bein over rated even amongst his peers hes not their no.1 choice jerry is one of a few hundred that over the course of time has changed music im gonna say there isnt one guitarist better than another they just interpret in their own style ive seen local guitarists that at any time can blow my mind and having an open mind is the key to success

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Poster: sagi58 Date: May 9, 2013 9:45pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

we all hear what we hear
I love Jerry's style of playing but I do agree that there are many guitar players that are just as good as him
1 of my favorites is Casey Gorman who is the guitarists for the band Hubinger ST from the Shelton CT area
every time I her them play he blows my mind
so in my opinion there is no greatest guitar player just many mind blowing players
check out Tim Palmari of the band Kung Fu

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Poster: sagi58 Date: May 9, 2013 9:53pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

and boy did Keith tear up those keys as did Ron and Brent

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Poster: Sluggo714 Date: Dec 29, 2005 1:26pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

I dunno about Clapton or Page but Garcia did say that Steve Kimock was the best guitarist nobody ever heard of. And Kimock's evolved man, evolved. I'd have to say Kimock and Keller Williams are the two best guitarists "nobody" ever heard of. Add Fareed in there and you're all set.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Dec 29, 2005 8:26pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

Saying Jerry was better or worse than Paige, Clapton, Henrix, et al. is an "apples and oranges" comparison. It's highly subjective b/c the styles and even genres are quite different (i.e. Paige mostly hard rock, Clapton rooted mostly in Blues) but one thing you CAN say about Garcia is that he was fluent, conversant, and extraordinary in a cross-section of nearly every guitar style b/c he studied and played them all.

He started out as a bluegrass afficianado, became a great banjo picker, and then moved seamlessly into electric guitar, helping forge the 60's psychedelic sound. He can also play the blues (listen to Turn on the Bright Lights on his "Compliments" CD), folk, rock, even jazz as evidenced by some of the great 1973-74 jams on tunes like EYES.

Jerry was by any account an excellent and accomplished guitar player who sometimes suffered from his own excesses, but how many in the music biz haven't at some point?

All of this is to say if you like Hendrix or Paige or Slowhand over Jerry, fine. It's impossible to say which is "best" among those all would agree belong in a "best of" discussion.

But please don't call Jerry "overrated." That I think is not only grossly unfair but easily refuted just by listening to some examples available on this very web site.

(I would submit as "exhibit A" the LET IT GROW>DEAL from Hampton, VA. 5-1-81. Anyone who thinks Jerry was an overrated guitarist should listen to that, then come back and tell me with a straight face they still think so.)

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Poster: CT Deadhead Date: Dec 29, 2005 9:18pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

There are literally hundreds of guitar players who were technically better than Jerry. Many of them much younger then Jerry. Eddie Van Halen gave birth to a new breed of guitar player who could play a ridiculous amount of notes cleanly and quickly. However, few had Jerry's true ability to just play almost any song in any style.

Jerry's style was the most unique out of all the guitarists except for Hendrix who died too young and we will never know what he could have accomplished. Listen to almost any obscure string of notes from Jerry, and it is always identifiable as Jerry. Play some obscure string of notes from another guitarist and you would have a difficult time identfying the guitarist. Out of the modern day guitarist, the only other one who was as identifiable I think is Stevie Ray Vaughn (heavily influenced by Hendrix and also died way too young).

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Poster: Fishead Date: Dec 30, 2005 2:54am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

guess you never heard santana or mikey houser ...etc...

jerry was amongst a great group of unique guitarists
who had their own distinct sound...
stevie ray sounds like alot of blues guitarists but didnt play like them...

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Poster: DEADBUCK Date: Dec 29, 2005 10:56pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

Come on all....face it. I ROCK! I am the best!........ ok ok Im awake now. Ummmmmmmmmmm.....I know who isnt the best! (besides me) But theres no need to go there either...Well Jerry rocks no matter what and I am glad we had him in our lives for as long as we did....damn I wish we could have more.... And is there truly that love between the guitarist and the fans with the others mentioned as there was/is with us and Jerry? I doubt it! Long live the others all the same.

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Poster: pnc Date: Dec 29, 2005 11:39am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

I remember reading that jerry thought eric clapton was the best blues guitarist ever...

which is a pretty good argument. as much as i love jerry, and his style, i'm not sure he was quite in the clapton league...that being said, there weren't any folks doing what jerry could do either. but there are many "better" guitar players, i think. like john macglaughlin...

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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Jan 3, 2006 8:25am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

I know that Jerry thought that there were many guitarists that could do what he did as well, if not better than he. In the recent A&E biography, Steve Parrish says as much.I think the debate about who is the greatest Guitar Player is subjective, ultimately it is what a musician makes you feel that reveals his greatness IMHO. Using that definition, many people would choose Jerry over any other. Jerry, Clapton, Santana, Kimmock and many others could play any style of music and each has his own strengths. Jerry, to me, is clearly the greatest riffer I ever heard, and along with Santana played his emotions better than almost anyone. I mean you can listen to 100 Sugarees, Other Ones, or any number of tunes and never hear the same sequences repeated, and you can sense his emotional state at the time. I never get that from listening to Clapton. Jerry played what was in his head better than anyone. I would put Jerry, Kimmock, Clapton, Santana, Duane Allman, Jorma, FZ, Hendrix all in my short list of greatest guitar players, and not neccessarily in that order. I would also put David Gilmour, and Pete Townshend in there. I also have always thought that Martin Barre and Dave Davies are underrated. I am sure there are some that are slipping my mind at the moment. As I said I believe this is, to a large extent, subjective. As for Jimmy Page, I love Zepplin, but for me there are dozens of better guitarists.

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Poster: rizzalater Date: Jul 1, 2013 6:12am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

Are You kiddin' Me. Clapton Plays From The Heart. If You Never Get That From Listening To Clapton. You Obviously Don't Listen To Him Enough. Santana Also Plays From The Heart. I Think It's A Bias Comment Coming From A "Jerry Is My Favorite Guitaraist" Fan. Lets Get Real.In Order, Hendrix- Clapton-Santana-Allman Knopfler. Don't Be Bias Cause You're A Dead Head. Garcia Is Great But Not In My Top 5. I Go By Talent. Garcia Is Very Over-Rated.

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Poster: rizzalater Date: Jul 1, 2013 6:53am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

Can we please stop this crap and get some non-deadhead comments. Besides i would like to quote B.B King who said and i quote " I think eric clapton is the best rock guitar player". And that's coming from a legend who is actually a real guitar player. You can go to any top list and garcia wouldn't even be in the top 10. Let's get real.

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Dec 31, 2005 10:05am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers? Who's the best guitarist?

I recall taking a much younger lady to a 91 or 92 JGB show in Charlotte. Other than the usual Trucking on the radio, she had no other experience at all with Jerry or the Dead. The show was OK, a little draggy and Jerry's voice was a bit tired. He made up for much of it with some very fine guitar playing. Unlike most GD shows, I really pay attention at Jerry gigs...and I kept wondering all night whether my "date" would enjoy the time. I glanced over at her after the Melvin > Jerry solos during The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down...and tears were streaming down her face. She got it. So maybe he wasn't the best...but boy was he magic.

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Poster: brendanmcauley Date: Jan 20, 2006 8:33am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers? Who's the best guitarist?

That is a great story Powell, right on!

I think jerry was relatively quiet about himself-this is obvious. He always said that he never wanted to promote too many things or politics because he knew he was influential. His peers I think were star struck by him. This is my own interpretation, being someone who was born in 1970. I saw my first show in 1987 in Hartford. But I was always keyed into this and looked for tid bits on jerry and his peers when ever I could. I recall Al Demieola being someone that jerry called, and I could be mistaken but then I have belived it for 15 years- : "the best guitarist alive".

I know that at one gig John Lennon was quoted after watching jerry jam with some others "is any guitar louder than Jerry's"..so there was mixed jelousy almost about him. I think there was always such a mistique layed on him by the deadheads that other guitarists had to respect him obviously and is well seen in Festival express. At one point no body even bothers to jam with him because he is just too dam good!

As for jerry's take on others, I don't think he handed out compliments too easily and I don't think he cared if anyone else in the spotlight competing with him because he was always amazed that fans stayed to watch the dead play I rememebr he once said " I mean why don't they all just leave"...refering to the idea it was great to see them be interested in his music but they were going to jam regardless-but it was cool peoeple stuck around.

But he loved colaboration- again see festival express. But seriously, I don't thnk jer was impressed by many others at all because something tells me that his take was that its not up to him to be impressed. I know this; jerry once said in a RS interview that each note had a little spriit to it and that it floated freely. He also talked about playing the silence and that the music existed but needed to be temperd with the right silence. Kesey described his playing as snakes slithering between loosly stacked chords- what a poet!

No body was like jerry and I don't think he cared and was not impressed easily. It was not up to him to like anyone else- I think he wanted to be liked by others. Grateful dog is a wodnerful documentary where you get the feeling he was just a regular guy who really would do anything for anyone. Its sort of sad to see how much he put himslef out for others in just the most minute of ways. Ultimately it was his road to God..or wherever he wanted to be...rip jgb luv ya bro!

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Poster: heptone Date: Dec 30, 2005 3:30pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers? Who's the best guitarist?

The most mind blowing guitarist i've ever heard is Django Reinhardt.

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Poster: Robman Date: Dec 30, 2005 11:48pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers? Who's the best guitarist?

C'mon, folks. Trying to agree on the "best guitarist" is like trying to pick the "best pianist" or "best novelist." Who was the best pianist? Liszt? Chopin? Tatum? Evans? Jarrett? Or the best novelist: Dostoevsky? Joyce? Faulkner? Proust? Tolstoy? Dickens? Tolkien?

My point: when you reach a certain point of creative talent, artists become incomparable in terms of "all-around-bestness." They are different, they have relative strengths and weaknesses, and they appeal more or less to different folks, but none can be (or "beat") all of the others.

IMHO, Garcia's relative strength was his ability to engage in constantly surprising collective improvisation (at least when he was at the peak of his powers). This is not the standard "guitar hero" metric, which emphasizes instead the performance of technically flawless and largely self-referential solos on top of a backing rhythm section. This difference is, I think, the main source of the bewildering controversy over Garcia's "rating" as a guitarist. (Typical amazon.com comment: "I can play guitar better than Garcia!" My mental response: "When is your next gig?") Yes indeed, Garcia was no Hendrix, no Clapton, no Skunk Baxter--but neither are/were Hendrix, Clapton, or Baxter a Garcia. Imagine Clapton, Hendrix, or Baxter on stage with Lesh & Co. (at their peak) and then imagine the resulting train wreck.

One last example: There were and are many, many, many trumpet players with technical prowess vastly exceeding that of Miles Davis on his best day ever--as Miles would have been the first to admit. Odd, isn't it, that Miles nevertheless remains one of the all-time greats?

Thanks heavens for diversity!

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Poster: Sluggo714 Date: Jan 2, 2006 12:08am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers? Who's the best guitarist?

This is one helluva thread. So much things to say. But and however, I noticed that the guitar talents mentioned here as among the "best" ever would comprise a pretty talented list and came fairly close to naming all of the greats. Maybe even as a community we could cull together nominations and vote, not to determine anything, but just to see what kind of results we get. I'm sure old Jerry would come close to topping the list, regardless of whether he's truly the "best". For my money there was only one "best" and that was Jimi Hendrix, remembering of course that all "bests" are subjective (and a kick in the shins to the feller who said we could use statistics to determine "best" quarterbacks- if we base it solely on stats then it's not Montana, but Marino by a looooong shot.)

Here are a few more names, some folks who seemed absent from the discussion, to add to the best guitarists of all the times:

Steve Howe
Leo Kottke
Keller Williams
Stanley Jordan
Al Dimeola

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Poster: Cerro Date: Jan 26, 2006 2:05pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers? Who's the best guitarist?

"Who was the best pianist? Liszt? Chopin? Tatum? Evans? Jarrett?"

Evans and Jarrett weren't even in the same universe as Art Tatum. Not even remotely close.

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Poster: SNKleom Date: Jan 1, 2006 2:29pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers? Who's the best guitarist?

Thank you for your intelligent, articulate reply to this socratically impossible-to-answer question. I'm sure Jerry would agree that there are infinite slots available for musicians who at chosen moments, are infused with the divine ability to transcend the ordinary. And when judging their contribution, one must look at their contribution across the fullness of time.

All the guitarists mentioned in these posts are among the very best at their respective metier; and we are not arguing football statistics, where we can say Montana was better than Marino.

As for what Jerry thought of his peers; he expressed nothing but universal respect for any number of musicians. But I did hear him say that when he listened to the improvisations of pianist Art Tatum, it made him want to simply "hang it up."

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Poster: SNKleom Date: Jan 2, 2006 2:10am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers? Who's the best guitarist?

That's a great quote. I have a couple of Tatum CDs, and I can easily grasp how he's a musician's musician. It sounds like he has twleve fingers on each hand.

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Poster: Robman Date: Jan 1, 2006 10:51pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers? Who's the best guitarist?

That reminds me of Fats Waller's quip upon learning that Tatum was in the audience during one of Waller's performances: "Ladies and gentlemen, I play piano, but God is in the house tonight." Legend has it that Waller then stopped playing and asked Tatum to take the bench instead.

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Poster: kayatosh Date: Oct 13, 2007 7:52am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

great thread. I came to it while googling whether garcia had ever played with clapton. Garcia for me is the best guitarist/singer musician b/c, as P.gel explained above, you can feel the emotion in his playing. He made the guitar sing, and was a truly emotive slide player, like Duane. Just got done listening to Jerry sitting in with the Almans et. al. on 12/31/73 (go to wolfgang's vault and dial that one up - wow!) At that show, Garcia fit seamlessly into the AB sound, improvising as if walking drunk on a tight rope, but never falling, just soaring. Powerful singer too. Listen to that 70's voice - beautiful, heartfelt, tender. Even his froggy 11/24/78 voice hits me in the heart.

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Poster: JodyC Date: Dec 30, 2005 2:27am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

Its not like we spoke together on the subject, but he seemed to enjoy playing with a wide variety of musicians, as he played a wide variety of music. Legion of Mary has such a different sound, I have a great set of him and bobby playing with John Fogerty doing Credence tunes, and Fogerty is just delighted to have him playing with him. Have a fun set with him playing with Elvis Costello of all people, aand Elvis give him his due respect. And way back when he seemed to play with whoever else was in town- New Riders, Airplane, Janis, etc. I guess he loved music and those with similar interests. Not too deep.

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Poster: bfuller Date: Jan 2, 2006 3:20am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

JodyC where can someone get holld of the Garcia/Weir/Fogerty set?

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Poster: JodyC Date: Jan 2, 2006 7:05am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

I think I got it off dimeadozen.org If its easier I can burn you a copy. Let me know. jodymcollinsATsbcglobalDOTnet

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Poster: sakanaband Date: Apr 22, 2013 12:30pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

A few thoughts:

*Garcia is easily the most misunderstood guitar player of all time. He is also easily one of the most underrated in all music history (along with Kimock, Houser, Anastasio, Richard Thompson, Steve Winwood, etc.).

*That Garcia is the most recorded musician of all time has got to mean something in terms of his greatness.

*I agree with another guy on this thread that no single guitar player to my knowledge has as wide of a range.

*Garcia is the certainly the most underrated rock vocalist of all time.

*In regards to the original post though..., There is a great anecdote about Garcia and Mickey Hart just going ape-shit after seeing Cream in one of their first appearances in San Francisco. Hart says "Damn, that's the best band on the planet, man!" And Garcia retorts "They're the best band on the planet TONIGHT, man."

I've seen the Garcia on MANY nights that he was the best guitar player on the planet on THAT particular night. No doubt.

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Poster: caspersvapors Date: Dec 30, 2005 9:28am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

I shouldve known this thread wouldve turned into an argument lol. Anyway yeah I agree wholeheartedly with most the posts, about Jerry being great yet still not a "technical master." However, I think he couldve given Clapton a run for his money if he really wanted to, but certainly not someone like Jimmy Page...I do agree its an apples to oranges thing, and I think a lot of it has to do with Jerry growing up playing bluegrass, as oppose to blues like most of his contemporaries. Anyway this discussion could go on forever

My original post was what were HIS thoughts about his fellow musicians...

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Poster: bonk Date: Jan 2, 2006 11:48pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

PEOPLE:SORRY, I AM NOT THIS HARSH BUT THIS POST IS REDICULUS!WHO IS BETTER THAN WHO.JUST USELESS!

ITS NOT ALWAYS WHAT IS PLAYED...SOMETIMES ITS WHAT WAS NOT PLAYED!

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Poster: caspersvapors Date: Jan 3, 2006 6:45am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

once again, that was not the intention of my original post. Someone got the smart idea of editing his title and this whole thread went to shit

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Poster: bonk Date: Jan 3, 2006 9:28pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

iM DOWN WITH THAT!!!!!

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Poster: deVere Date: Jan 12, 2006 7:42pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

This a pretty fun post. I think that one reason we all listen to "this" music anyway (take that however you please) is that pretty much all the musicians have great respect for each other, which is why it's so much fun to go to the shows. I mean, you never know who's going to show up and play. I don't see this happening if these guys (and gals) Jerry and beyond didn't have a deep respect for what each was doing on stage, whose willing to share the spotlight with whom. I think for Jerry alot of that came from the folk background of people just playing together. For the jazz types it seems more artistic (Don't really know what I mean by that though), but you don't see it with traditional rock or pop groups where the egos seem more important. So...anyway.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Jan 12, 2006 9:24pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

Another musician Jerry thought the world of (and vice versa) is Elvis Costello.

Jerry told Elvis he couldn't believe how confident Elvis appeared when he did solo acoustic shows, something Jerry himself often said filled him with fear, although he did perform a number of times alone on stage w/his acoustic. I've always thought those were some of Jerry's weaker performances and could never understand why b/c he's such an excellent banjo player and picker in general, but then upon reading those comments he confessed to Elvis it made a lot more sense.

For his part Elvis thought Jerry to be one of the most underrated balladeers of modern music, and loved performing numbers like "Must have been the Roses", "Stella Blue", and "Ship of Fools" at many of his shows.

There is a fantastic version of Ship of Fools on the Elvis Costello/Steve Naive boxed set of acoustic guitar/piano duets the two performed in the 90's at small clubs.

Definyely worth a listen; and somewhere out there is a bootlegged CD of Jerry being called up on stage to perform a couple of rockabilly numbers with Elvis...it's called "Live at Sweetwaters" and has a great pic of Elvis and Jerry smiling together on the cover.

If anyone knows where I can find that, let me know b/c I somehow (D'oh!) lost the CD!

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Poster: ScarletTouchFire Date: Feb 8, 2006 1:59am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

Wow-

This is a GREAT thread, i just wanna put my 2 cents. Im NOT gonna go into WHO i thought was the best cuz thats kinda hard to define, BUT one thing about Jerry that i never experienced seeing any other group, is that when Jerry was on, and i mean really ON, he would elevate the rest of the band. Ive seen plenty of bands, RUSH, Deep Purple, etc., and all those guitarists ROCK, but ive never seen them elevate the rest of the band to a new level. I guess the word im looking for is inspirational. He was na inspirational player. I mean, Page is great, so is Alex Liefson, but i dont consider them inspirational. I used to LOVE it when Jerry would REALLY be hitting his stride (the Jam in Bertha, Jack Straw, etc.) and youd see Bobby, head down, with that SCHOOL BOY grin on face doin those "head juts" just priceless!

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Poster: XxRouninxx Date: May 15, 2007 7:25pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

i cant really answer the question at hand, but I can say that as a guitarist, i may have learned the most about music and versatility from jerry. Learning from players like clapton and page offered a good starting point, and hendrix opened me up to just freaking out and making the vibrations right.. but jerry taught me so much more about music as a whole

so many unmentioned guitarists, nbut id like to add keith richards and trey anastasio to the list

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Poster: fallenm73 Date: Apr 22, 2013 12:05pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

For me, to me.... Jerry grabs what's important more than any. The ability to connect with a person or a collective consciousness... His ability of this is no less than incredibly amazing. The sound is just a bonus... As for who's fingers move better.... Go ask your high school band class teacher:)

But these other guitarists are incredible too, I am just thankful for all of them. Not to mention all of you! Peace!:)

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Apr 22, 2013 1:11pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

Now this is an "oldie but a goodie" thread. Always enjoy it when a quality discussion comes up again.

But where did you find this one?


And as for Grendlel's Jerry/Elvis combo comment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq3r77gn9DQ

And lets not forget Jerry, Elvis and Sammy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY6-kJlxwZc

A match made...in...well, somewhere. Now Elvis does make a hasty exit about 45 seconds in.

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Poster: clovett Date: Nov 5, 2013 7:39pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

While I'm sure there were countless players he enjoyed I only remember Jerry singling out two guitarists specifically. One was Marc Knopfler and the other was Django Reinhardt. Obviously Django Reinhardt was not a peer. Greatest guitar player? Let's debate chocolate and vanilla for awhile. My personal opinion is that too many people equate fast with good, "the faster you are the better you are". It's not athletics, it's f@ckin' music. The best thing we humans have come up with yet! I will always love Jerry's ability to play with curiosity and intellect without ever sacrificing emotion. He also had an inherent optimism in his playing that made me want to follow him down any road he wanted to explore. I read an interview where John Barlow said "unfortunately for him this whole thing (The Dead) is largely about the inner workings of Jerry's mind". Amen.

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Poster: Olo Date: Dec 29, 2005 8:38pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

Garcia held Clapton in the very highest regard to his very last day.
This cannot be overstated.

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Poster: TexasJeff Date: Apr 15, 2014 8:00pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: What did Jerry Garcia think of his peers?

I love Jerry, he was definitely one of the greatest. But noone mentioned John McLaughlin in this thread, and that blows my mind. Listen to Miles Davis Live Evil!